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Are Business Analysts Difficult to Deal With?

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This week I actually put out a post on Twitter and LinkedIn asking people for their ideas for my blog. Yes, sometimes hearing from the masses is the most efficient use of time and energy (and yes, I've been drawing a blank on what to write this week!).

When I received this from my pal Violet in Phoenix, Arizona, I had to run with it:

"Well, I have heard it said that BAs are difficult to work with. Ya know, detail oriented, kinda picky. You can't get away with anything around a BA. Analyzing and identifying opportunities sometimes comes off in the regular world as critical, complaining,  just plain annoying. You must work with lots of BAs to coordinate these events around the country all year and doing BA Times. Do you think the skills to make a wonderful BA are applicable to the real world? How do we soften ourselves to be more pleasant? Note, please spin your blog kind and friendly to BAs! Otherwise every BA in the world will comment to correct you!

Well, as you've just read, I didn't spin it all. I think Violet sums it up perfectly and based on my wide experience working with speakers, attendees, contributors, etc - all of whom are practicing BAs, I've got to agree with her!! So there you have it! Are BAs difficult to deal with? You bet your "back side" they are, but... they wouldn't be effective and successful without being that way! So,  I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic. You know- stories of how you've successfully navigated the hurdles. of being seen as difficult to effectively work with stakeholders and other team members. Or how you totally disagree with our view! Either way- feedback is the key. I'd love to see some strong dialogue here so let the words fly! I'm looking forward to reading the feedback and getting back to you

Until next time, all the best and stay difficult!?!?!

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0 # Kupe Kupersmith 2010-10-26 06:47
Wow! "Analyzing and identifying opportunities sometimes comes off in the regular world as critical, complaining, just plain annoying." Violet, what do you mean? That BAs don't live in the real world? In my opinion, I think we can get the job done without coming off as annoying. I don't like to work with people that are annoying. If BAs are really that annoying, then who will want to work with us. The comments I tend to get is working with me was helpful, not annoying.
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0 # Sherry Hamlin 2010-10-26 07:23
Sorry Kupe, I agree with Violet. I don't think she means any harm by referring to "the real world". I think it just means when we get outside the circle of our professional/wo rk environment, not everyone "gets us". We question everything and are always asking why. Might make us really good at what we do at work, but not everyone wants "challenged" outside of work. Unfortunately, "we" (or at least I) sometimes tend to do this.
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0 # Bassel Dabbagh 2010-10-26 08:06
I agree with Kupe on this one, but stated differently. It's all about personality, in my opinion, and BA's are usually very analytical people (myself included), and seen as though they only care about the details and changing them. My clients are extremely satisfied with my work on a current project, and are very excited that I am the BA on board. Today, during a meeting with them and my supervisors it was mentioned over and over that part of the reason of my great success on this project and in winning over the client was because I began the project by building solid relationships with my clients, and then went into my tasks later. I became very interested in their work and daily routines, and used that enthusiasm to show them how they could be much more efficient and productive. In a later meeting with my supervisors, we agreed that you can't teach personality, but can always teach BA skills. Asking so many questions and trying to change business for the better is part of the job, but maybe clients see a lack of enthusiasm or care from the BA into the actual business they are trying to change. Getting people to change a "years-long" routine is often one of the hardest things to do, whether in business or in life. If you really want to make the best impression on them, take a step out of the requirements and processes for a minute and think of what the client is going through to make that change. Most of them don't even want to change. If you show them for a minute that you care about their daily routines, maybe they won't think BA's are so annoying.
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0 # Simon Papson 2010-10-26 10:36
I was hired for my current role in part because I am difficult to deal with. "Difficult" in this case means: "Will always put the best interests of the project and the users first, and will stand up to stakeholders who might want to impose their own agenda on things - even if that stakeholder happens to be a senior executive." Of course, the proviso was that I'm only "difficult" up to a point, and am not unreasonably "difficult". I 've had this so-called complaint often - that I'm difficult to deal with. However, this is often said by the same people who respect the work that I do. They recognise that a "difficult" person is often the right person for the job: someone who is focussed on the detail; someone who's trying to make things right; someone who will listen to everybody equally, and not give special preference to any stakeholder merely because of their title; someone who judges every contribution on its merits, and fits it into the overall picture; someone who is aiming to deliver the best system for the people who will actually use it. A champion for quality and improvement is often seen as difficult by people who have other agendas, and I'm proud to be difficult in that context.
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0 # Søren Hjelholt 2010-10-26 18:51
I Agree with Simon on this one... I think being "Difficult" is a trademark of the BA, because "difficult" often means asking questions a coming with suggestions in order to secure the best possible solution within the given constraints. One of my own examples is a project where I was dealing with a foreign unit of the company, and we discussed, often heavily, on the issue of legal requirements vs. technical possibilities within the given time frame (set by EU legislation). Af we had agreed and implemented with succes, we accidentially met, and the Business Representative came over and thanked me for the good cooperation!
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0 # Kupe Kupersmith 2010-10-26 22:12
@hjelholt - thanking you for your cooperation says to me you were not viewed as difficult or annoying. I agree that we need to ask tough questions, but we can do this without being annoying? @SimontheBA - You know I love you right?!!! The problem with your last statement is some of those people with other agendas often have some power. @shamlin - If Violet meant the real world to mean outside of work, then OK. My wife thinks I am annoying sometimes! We need to be careful about being proud about being difficult. We can't get a chip on our shoulder...we wont influence that way.
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0 # Adam Kahn 2010-10-27 04:06
I'm very excited that this blog has generated some strong opinions and feedback. That was my intent from the beginning! I've been managing my Boston conference, so my apologies for the delayed response. Here it is: Kupe- suck it up (I can say this cause we know each other well), no one is trying to hurt your feelings, plus your one of the more "difficult" people I know- in a positive way of course! @shaml in & @hjelholt - thanks for getting Violet's back - she needs to feel the love @Simonthe BA- I love that you self identity as difficult b/c you put the needs of the project and users first. We need more BAs to take the perspective. There is an obvious negative stigma attached to "difficult," but I truly believe that being difficult can be positive for the success of our roles as BAs. It doesn't mean annoying. However- it is a fine line to walk as the relationships we develop feed into the success of our efforts. I think the dialogue here is great and this is what I'd love to see more of on BATimes. Thanks for the feedback and keep it coming! -Adam
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0 # Kupe Kupersmith 2010-10-27 05:26
LOL - I'm just a pleaser, so somone telling me I'm difficult hurts!!! :) See you in Chicago next week. Get ready for a high maintenance speaker. You think I have been difficult before...get ready!!!
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0 # Adam Kahn 2010-10-27 05:38
I'll give Amy a head's up since I won't be there! ;-)
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0 # Vesna Novakovic 2010-10-27 07:41
I think the key here is that a big part of our role is to SELL our ideas. Nothing annoys me more than a salesman that wants to sell me something that (I think) I don't need. We all know how to do our analysis, but if we don't put effort in selling what we find, we can have hard time at our jobs (been there). Analysts often don't like selling, so selling aspect in our job may be the hardest part (it sure is for me). We can even be irritated by the fact that we have to put effort in selling. Recent ly my clients were pushing for something that I didn't think would be good. I tried to tell them that was not a good idea by explaining some risks, inconsistencies etc... didn't work. Then, in the next meeting I painted a picture for them of what it would look like when they got what they were asking for. They started talking about how disastreous that would be and how they wouldn't want to go that way. I was smiling inside, wondering if they still remembered it was their idea :-)
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0 # Kupe Kupersmith 2010-10-27 08:43
@Vesna - great point!
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0 # Simon Papson 2010-10-27 17:32
Kupes! You'll make me blush... One aspect of my being "difficult" is that I'm not scared of people with power. So, they're the ones most likely to see me as "difficult". I'm the little chihuahua who will stare down the Great Dane. However, that example often gives other stakeholders, who might otherwise keep quiet, the incentive to state their opinions as well. People power is a wonderful thing when it's harnassed towards improvement. A s for being proud of being difficult, don't worry. It's just an acknowledgement that this is one of my strengths. But, it's also one of my weaknesses - too much of a good thing, as they say... So, I keep it in check, and use it only for good, not evil.
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0 # Kupe Kupersmith 2010-10-27 21:30
Simon, you remind me of a quote from Spiderman. "With great power, comes great responsibility" - Uncle Ben. We need to remember to use our difficultness(I think I just made up a word) for good!
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0 # Adam Kahn 2010-10-28 00:32
Uncle Ben was absolutely right, the only issue for most BAs is that they lack the Power (in most cases), but still must take responsibility. I think that's going to be my next blog- don't go stealing my idea Kupe! I love this feedback and SimontheBA, I'm happy that you see yourself as a fearless Chihuahua. I like to think of myself like my own dog- a St. Bernard. Mellow and friendly, but loud and strong when necessary.
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0 # Brian Auld 2010-10-28 01:25
This is a bit of a sore point for most BA's I think. One persons "Difficult" or "Annoying" is another persons "Thorough"! I think that it is always our duty as BA's to ask the difficult questions of Stakeholders and persevere even if it can make us unpopular at times. I myself have tried very hard over the years to always find the line where it starts becoming annoying but everyones threshold for questions is different. A stakeholders personal agenda can sometimes cloud their professional judgement too. I live by the mantra "Do what's best for the business" but sometimes you're at risk of becoming a casualty of war when senior stakeholders are clearly doing whats best for them instead. I've just spent the past year being incredibly unpopular by challenging the lack of a business case on a major strategic project we were embarking on. The senior stakeholders knew (roughly) what they wanted to get at the end and wanted action but didn't understand what was involved to make it happen and how complex the subject matter was. No one was listening but I felt that it was my duty to persevere in the face of adversity. I'm pleased to say that as of today they have finally seen the light after my team have spent the last year conducting analysis across 5,000 + staff proving to them why it was a bad idea. We need to stay positive and try to build strong relationships but doing whats best for the business should be paramount.
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0 # Cecilie Hoffman 2010-10-28 05:03
One of the best comments I have ever received in a performance review was, "she a pit bull on pot roast and thank goodness for it; no one else chases down the tough issues like she does." If this makes me "difficult", then SimontheBA and I can go have a beer together. You too, Kupe.
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0 # Akarsh MG 2010-11-01 21:30
@Simon - You have mentioned some great points about being "difficult" and also One aspect of my being "difficult" is that I'm not scared of people with power. I think this works well and wonders for me too when i am talking to key stakeholders,cu stomers and users as i provide them outputs more then expected out of me. But being "difficult" has not worked well always with every managers; few manager consider it to be a little bit of attitude problem lol but few just love the way i handle things with stakeholders :) @cecilie - great comments about yourself :)
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0 # David Wright 2010-11-10 06:30
Yes, projects would be a lot easier if it wasn't for all the people... ;-) Excuse me if someone already said this, but I think "annoyance" with the work someone is doing may based on not knowing what they are trying to accomplish. It is important for everyone involved to know what is being done, what each person's contribution is, and what end result will be produced. The value of participating has to be clear to all. We need to make the work separate from the person doing it; if it is too closely identified with the person, who does things that no one else understands or cares about (because they haven't been told), that will cause "annoyance".... and who wants that, really...
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0 # David Wright 2010-11-10 06:38
(more) I actually had an IT person in a requirements session who kept repeatedly interrupting a business person to say that can't be done, and such. As facilitator, I had to forcefully remind this person to stop twice, and was on the verge of asking him to leave. At the end of the session, he walks up, shakes my hand, and says "sorry I was a such a pain in the ass, but that's my job." I did not have an immediate rejoinder to offer, but as a consultant, I would not have said anything anyway. My thoughts later was that such a "job description" will eventually blow up on him when he annoys someone he really should not have.
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0 # Yaser Al-Qayem 2010-11-18 23:33
I can understand the perception many people have about BAs as being "difficult" maybe not because of the too many "annoying" questions that BAs throw into the discussion but because of the "uncomfortable" zone that those questions put the business folks in by challenging in many cases their status quo of doing things. having that said; I believe in order to ease that uncomforting dialogue or discussion is to start with building a friendly relation ship to break the ice on a basis that my role as a BA is merely to facilitate the discussion (not to interrogate!) to understand the business processes and functions and hence to figure out any potential bottlenecks and/or issues in an attempt to find the most effective solution that will lead to make their life easier so they can do their job more efficiently and effectively. B uilding the trust upfront will definitely lead to better cooperation from the business side and put the context of requirements elicitation and analysis as a joint venture effort as oppose to "one man show" on the BA side.
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0 # Nitul 2011-04-12 17:13
Hi Adam, As a BA, I need to get detailed oriented, else what would be the use of IT in solving the customer challenges faced? Secondl y, if the project fails due to not so proper requirements, then my job would be at stake and subsequent careers would be on a toss. Well, it is true that my customer generally gets annoyed of asking so many questions. Sometimes they do not respond effectively in meetings as well. In such cases what should be the path? Generally, I go informal to build up trust rather than dealing as professionals face-to-face.
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